An #openweb organic intellectual,technologist and part of the #OMN
What we are pushing at the #OMN is x10 to hard for normal people to use. When we outreach meany people come aboard to try and push onto the project 10x harder to use tools than what we push – this is the #geekproblem expecting people to user tools that are x100 times harder to use than the tools the #dotcons offer them for “free”
This destructive behaver has to stop.To have hope of a #openweb reboot., lets try and be human as we have piles of shit to shovel all ready without adding more.
Q. lf we know someone who could host videos over Tor, could that help you? Is the software Tor/clearnet agnostic?
A. it might be an abuse of the #tor network to stream videos over it as it has limited bandwidth and is run on a volunteer bases. It would be a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons please have a look into the pros and cons of this as am interested.
Some answers from a brief search:
Q. under what circumstances Tor can handle streaming video?
A. What Tor can’t handle is lots of people consuming lots of bandwidth simultaneously. There’s no clean way to load balance and everyone is at the mercy of independent relays.
A. We’ve been saying for years not to run BitTorrent over Tor, because the Tor network can’t handle the load
Interesting most people talk about security/privacy and only respect for the commons as an afterthought – this is clearly a #geekproblem
update
Q. I2P is run by volunteers and encourages the sharing of videos. The internet is a Commons and depends on trust, not just Tor. ISPs have Fair Use policies etc. If not Tor maybe this person can share over I2P.
A. This one kinda fails one of the #4opens – open “industrial” standards. Only people who went through the process of installing bad UX code could watch the videos so not a good outreach project. The is a resion we are building out a OPEN media network. Worth thinking about this issue “It easy to keep crossing wires with “media” vs. personal. Media should be open, with clear sources, except when protecting them. Whereas personal data should default to private”
#stupidindividualism and the #deathcult that breeds this
1) One of the main ones is co-option by #NGO agender, both, by organizations who push for “common sense” #dotcons paths and individuals who strive to build their careers by trampling over the grassroots horizontality.
2) Second, I know a lot of people who would fuck over the future for petty personal grudges and narrow self subsistence. It’s a problem with rolling out positive grassroots projects like #indymediaback that we need to actively mediate for a good outcome.It’s interesting to think about this at a small personal scale and the wider social issue of #stupidindividualism and the #deathcult that breeds this.
3) Third, let me say something unfashionable, am a fan of liberals, they created meany of the good social things in the world. BUT Intolerant and dogmatic liberals are a constant drain, pushing of “common sense” agender over every issue they touch. This shit smeared problem needs constant mediation.
4) Fourth, the #geekproblem which is looked at in other posts on this blog – click on the hashtag to find them.
5) There are more please comment so i can add them.
In web application development, there are 3 groups you can empower, and it’s important to understand which group you are empowering.
1) the users
2) the producers
3) the geeks who develop/admin
Most #geekproblem coding is about the 3ed grouping taking all the power to decide. This, tiny, “elite” know what is good for the rest “passive” masses. This is why most #openweb code-bases are unusable, because obviously they simply do not know, good #UX in social tech is hard.
Most #dotcons empower capital, who pay the geeks to “serve” the producers to enslave the users. In this they are an interesting evil hybrid.
I can’t actually think of an example where the users are actually empowered off the top of my head – ideas please?
Good #openweb projects try to empower the producers/user, they are not meany of these. Can anyone think of examples, we need a list.
Obviously we can’t keep repeating the first two shit outcomes, as they are already piles of stinking manure everywhere from the last 20 years of this tech mess. You have/need a shovel #OMN
The “newswire” used to be open publishing we now add a switch trust/moderate to this wire. The UK indymedia site did something similar latter in its life. Its up to the “editorial collective” to flip this switch for site/accounts/tags etc
The central “fetures column” is newswire articals promoted to a feature. These are written by the “editorial collective” from text and media resources from newswire posts.
Both are news flows.
In journalistic terms the newswire is “breaking news” that flows past fast. It might or might not be true/accreat in real time but will be relatively accreat over time. Its “citizen journalism” in that horrible liberal term. Grassroots reporting maybe better term.
The “feature column” is more like tredtional journalism. Facts are checked, spelling correct, sound in audio good, videos stable etc its the best of the newswire collected and put into context by a group of “citizen journalists” this moves slowly so articals stick around for days/weeks.
The moderation stream is not visible to non “editorial collective” people.
The value in the OMN idea is a social feedback loop to push federation to a lowest level, grassroots. The 5 functions: link/trust/moderate switch is key to this social outcome.
The OMN use of these 5 functions as a strong political/social protection against political infighting/tribalism and mediating the #geekproblem by removeing the levers of control from the programmers/admins and giving them to the producers.
From my long experience in the delight and mess of grassroots media/tech, with out the last two “social tech” paragraphs the project has zero chance of working.
The project i like to point to as an example. The indymedia project, an early alt-media network that spread the use of open source software and #4opens organizing around the world at the turn of the century. In the UK the was a #geekproblem vs #openweb fight that became nasty over what we would now understand as “activertypub” the #Fediverse vs more centralized silo approach. In the UK you can see this stress point fought as a proxy war over #RSS
The #openweb aggregation side were sold a dud by the #fashernistas being swayed by the #geekproblem It was obvious that the project had to change and move away from central servers to a more aggregation model. BUT the movement was torpedoed by an obviously pointless open-source project instead of implementing an existing standards based RSS they created their BETTER, BRIGHTER flavour which was of course incomparable with everyone else.
This is an example of a “better” but obviously pointless open source project and also destructive behaver. The #indymedia project in the UK was ripped apart internally from this same divide in the end. A bad “open source” outcome. You can find similar behaver today in the fediverse if you look.
It’s a interesting thing to look at. Actually you can see 3 active sides in the internal uk #indymedia mess and important to see the outcome that they ALL LOST in the end.
1) #encryptionists (being pushed by the #geekproblem)
2) #fashernistas (being influenced by the #geekproblem)
3) #openweb being sidelined by the rest
1) The first resisted and blocked aggregation and #RSS from privacy and “security” issues.
2) The second is a obviously failed compromise by keeping control of “their” own better, non-comparable RSS format.
3) The last, the one the whole project was based on, were ignored and sidelined.
The #IMC project soon became irrelevant and died.
What is the effect of #geekproblem, of privacy and encryption, and their fetishization of #cryptocurrencies?
The market (liberal individualism and private property that comes with it) provides information on value based on explotion greed and selfishness.
#Opendata and #metadata provides information on value based on connection, cooperation and altruism.
A #4opens approach spreads connection, cooperation and altruism into our social world.
A market approach (privacy, individualism and private property based on encryption) allows exploitation, greed and selfishness to be at the centre of our society.
This is an old ideological and political divide that is not talked about at all in the #geekproblem as the is “no such things as society, only individuals and their family’s ”.
Society is based on social norms, walking down the street in safety – soft
Code is hard norms. A policeman on every street corner – hard
The question that we need answers to is how can we talk soft (social) power to the hard power (code) of the #geekproblem when for them such norms are invisible. They can’t hear what we are saying.
The #geekproblem fight between open/closed is a dangerous game of #figleaf. Media is always done in the open, so trying to secure and close this is completely self-defeating. In social networks it’s more complex, privacy in open is sudo anonymous at best. In closed in theory you can have secure p2p connections, but for 99.9% of people running on standard corporate hardware the is no way to trust this so agen sudo anonymous. So technology could be “secure” for .001% of people, maybe.
Please make this clear when talking about these issues, as fig leafs are dangerous.
For the social change we need to survive as a society and flourish as a species we need to take some time to go back to basics
All economic systems are based a unspoken idea of what it is to be human. To be clear, if you do not have an understanding of this you have little understanding of anything that matters in the era of #XR
Let’s look back to early Christianity to highlight this idea.
* The Old Testament is based on a negative view of humanity, greed, selfishness and gluttony are the motivations that god is controlling by forcing us to bow down to his authority.
* The New Testament is based on love and common humane society.
* Capitalism is based on greed and the worst parts of human nature
* Socialism is based on altruism and the best parts of human nature
As you can see, the divide between these different ideology’s goes back a long way and likely to the dawn of human history.
These simple groupings live within supposedly sister ideology’s, think for example of how the horizontal’ists and the vertical’ists in progressive movements represent the different views.
When we start to understand this, you can use this clear difference to make judgments on what has value and what is destructive in our current society.
The only question that matters is the balance between trust and fear is a useful way of looking at this.