* hard to say, I think all the limited user data it collects will be sold for profit, it’s the business model. The code of the product is up on github. Say ½ a open.
Open source – as in “free software” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software this keeps development healthy by increasing interconnectedness and bringing in serendipity. The Open licences are the “lock” that keep the first two in place, what we have isn’t perfect but they do expand the area of “trust” that a project needs to work, creative commons is a start here.
* Yes its based on Chromium and all its modified code is on github i think. Think a 1 open
Open “industrial” standards – this is a little understood but core open, it’s what the open internet and WWW are built from. Here is an outline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard
* its built on top of a major open source project, supports most openstanderds? 1 open
Open process – this is the most “nebulous” part, examples of the work flow would be wikis and activity streams. Projects are built on linking trust networks so open process is the “glue” that binds the links together. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process
* The development seems to be done in the open on github but the business model is hidden behind the company structure so say ½ a open.
Looking at the intro page, it looks like they are shifting round the exploitation. “Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it” Modern interpretation Of this: #dotcons only shift exploitation to the commons, the point is to challenge exploitation.
In more than 20 years of activism I have seen our use of language fail us. There mainstreaming language, all we have, has no power it is just hot air.
If we are to have hope. We have to reclaim our language, we have to recreate our language. We need to call everyday things by what they are.
#deathcult the neo-liberalism that has ripped our society and ecology apart for the last 40 years. This is inside everything we touch and shapes our thoughts.
* liberalism is seen as a good, it is, the small “neo” is meaningless in our language.#XR has made mainstream that it is about death and despair at an unimaginable scale. A cult? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult its invisible death that we all share and believe in, the glue that binds us.
#dotcons are the new internet based media companies such as#failbook who are the #deathcult in code and algorithms, all the new economy which shapes us every hour of our lives.
* it took 10 years of fighting against the#openweb for us to accept our digital addictions. We knew that they were cons to make lots of money, what we did not know was that they were about social control.
These new#hashtag words need a growing community to reache a critical mass. Then the door to the mainstreams will open. Until then it is locked and bolted and hot air of our current languages stinks.
When we do get the General Election we face a crisis that will dwarf #Brexit – the use of target advertising to buy the election. Both Facebook and Google will receive £100’s of millions in political advertising. Neither the mainstream side, or you and me, will see or be aware of this messaging. This money will directly stir up narrow hatred and division. With traditional media pushing right-wing agendas we could well break democratic norms for good. This will happen without you seeing it, but you will likely wake up to the effect on election morning. It’s basic stuff.
Solution: invade and occupy the core corporations’ offices and do not leave until we get them to step away from accepting this money.
To try and stop the disaster for social democracy the next election is likely to be. The action needs to be taken at the roots. Ie. In the soft fluff cores of the #dotcons facebook and google are a start by targeting these you are pulling on a lever that both has an affect and can be changed. Its important to focues and not dissipate focues on A-B marches, media stunts, petitions and appealingly to the mainstream.
Are a simple way to judge the value of a “alt/grassroots” tech project.
Open data – is the basic part of a project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data without this open they cannot work.
* there is no way to get your data out or to access the metadata. Its copyright. No open
Open source – as in “free software” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software this keeps development healthy by increasing interconnectedness and bringing in serendipity. The Open licences are the “lock” that keep the first two in place, what we have ain’t perfect, but they do expand the area of “trust” that a project needs to work, creative commons is a start here.
* its closed source on the surface, not obvious what is happening under the surface. No open
Open “industrial” standards – this is a little understood but core open, it’s what the open internet and WWW are built from. Here is an outline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard
* no RSS I can see, it’s a basic website I think with a forum? No open
Open process – this is the most “nebulous” part, examples of the work flow would be wikis and activity streams. Projects are built on linking trust networks, so open process is the “glue” that binds the links together. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process
* it’s a forum so kinda open process but no look at the running of the project. 1/2 open
To sum up, it’s a project that could be made more #4opens if the was a community involved. This depends on the guys running it and their tech support being willing and having time to push the project out into the “commons”.
Please remember before posting liberal stuff that just about everything around you and meany things you think you value are in reality a part of the #deathcult
Neoliberalism that we live and breath is the coureas of our current mess, not Trump or Brexit, they are outcomes. So when you look at any solution is it a “common sense” neoliberal idea or something else? Please think about the #deathcult before you share propaganda on #dotcons
Throwing ideas into the air to see where they land, this is a sketch, not a blueprint – a thought experiment. As if we’re serious about using the #openweb to challenge #mainstreaming to build alternatives to failing capitalist status quo, we have to start somewhere. So let’s ask: what does a world built around the #4opens look like?
We’re talking about a soft move away from capitalism, not an apocalyptic collapse or utopian leap, but a pragmatic, grounded shift in how we live, relate, and build together in the digital era. A society governed by openness, not profit, future rooted in collaboration, not control.
The End of Money as the Primary Motivator
In a #4opens world, exchange is no longer driven by the blunt instrument of money. The logic of scarcity fades when information is abundant and freely shared. With open data and transparent process, value can be tracked, distributed, and balanced – not hoarded.
Imagine a path where you give not to accumulate, but to re-balance. Where you’re recognized and supported for what you contribute, openly. This doesn’t mean the end of value, it means the end of commodification as the only language for it. Capitalism made money sacred. The #4opens world breaks that spell in the digital paths, which can then be used as a lever to re-balance this in the more physical world.
Radical Reductions in Inequality
The current digital economy centralises control in the hands of the #nastyfew, the platform owners, the server landlords, the data hoarders. In contrast, a #4opens world puts common infrastructure – physical and digital – under #FOSS democratic stewardship. Open code, open governance, open data, open processes. These tools dismantle the gatekeeping logic of closed silos. We stop renting access to our lives and can then stop working to make the rich richer. What results is not just a redistribution of resources, but a recomposition of power. Rich and poor stop being natural categories, we start down the path of inequality becoming a historical memory.
Ecological Transformation via Digital Abundance
In this world changing, we break the toxic loop where growth = progress. As digital goods expand – freely shareable, replicable, adaptable – the material basis of economic growth shrinks. Instead of growth for its own sake, we can choose to sift focus to ecological outcomes. Energy systems localise, circular economies flourish. The planet breathes again because we’ve stopped mistaking consumerism for culture. On this post-consumption, we can meet human needs without destroying the biosphere.
Real Community, Not Algorithmic Spectacle
When your networks are open, knowable is modifiable, you stop being a metric or a data point. You become a person in a community again, who can re-build networks of care and trust. The #4opens give us tools to know each other better, to collaborate without permission, and to keep relationships alive across distance and time. We escape the isolation of the #dotcons by remembering what it means to belong, not to brands, but to people.
Reclaiming the Meaning of ‘Common Sense’
In this transition, we’ll have to rethink almost everything we take for granted. Why do we work so much? Why do we compete instead of collaborate? Why is everything a secret? Why are we trained to distrust? The capitalist world naturalised its own ideology, it taught us that exploitation was just “how the world works.” The #4opens world undoes this conditioning. We’ll discover that our “common sense” was a prison, and that open thinking makes new realities possible.
We already lost privacy, let’s be honest that the #dotcons and the surveillance state see everything. This isn’t a warning, it’s the present, there’s no going back to closed data, not legally or technically. The dream of sealed-off privacy is gone. So what can we do? We open the #metadata bag, all of it. We make the hidden flows of power visible to stop pretending that corporate surveillance is okay while peer-to-peer is dangerous. Yes, it’s uncomfortable, but in a world where we’ve already been stripped naked by Google, Amazon, and the NSA, radical transparency becomes the preferd path to justice. The question isn’t “how do we hide?” but “how do we share wisely and govern openly?”
What Does a Post-Capitalist, Open Society Look Like?
It’s not utopia, it’s messy, it’s federated, full of tension and debate. But it’s also a world where:
Decisions are made in the open, not behind closed doors.
Software is built to be forked, not locked.
Platforms are governed by people and communitys, not shareholders.
Care is more valuable than control.
Collaboration is default, not an afterthought.
This is the vision of the #4opens, not a theory, but a practice. A lived, everyday politics to shift from passive consumption to active creation. It’s the beginning of something new, rooted in old #FOSS, where everything we already know works if we just trust each other enough to try. So, what does a #4opens world look like? It looks like the world we’re already building, underneath the rubble of the old one, time to pick up your shovel.
Putting content into #dotcons creates a feedback loop with diminishing returns. The impact is marginal – and shrinking – because all you are really doing is training #failbook’s algorithms to better sell you, and everyone who interacts with your content, more “stuff.” This includes not just products, but ideology: the subtle shaping of thought, behaviour, and community through algorithmic social control.
It’s very easy to get pulled into a #flamewar on #failbook, because conflict drives engagement, and engagement drives ad views for the #dotcons. The system is designed for this. Outrage is profitable.
If you’re serious about progressive change, you could instead be having a grounded, meaningful conversation on the #openweb with millions of other people, where human activity and community are the outcome, not ad-driven consumerism.
I use the #deathcult tag to highlight the neo-liberal era of the last 40 years which has left us in this current mess. A cult as few of us inside can see outside “common sense” and death as #XR has made the climate chaos cliff we are facing and billions of deaths visible to the mainstream. Of course neo-liberalism is just an extream form of capitalism we had it before in the UK during the irish potato famine with its millions of deaths and displacements. When people realised the problems mainstream moved to social democracy (soft) capitalism before “forgetting” agen in the late 1970’s. Corbyn and Sanders are trying to move us back to social democracy, which is of course no sulution BUT much better than the current mess. We as radicals need to do better #OMN
My point is that sanders and Corbyn are old mainstream and the current #deathcult are the current mainstream that’s dieing now. Ie we should create real radicalism to make Corbin and Sanders the centrist they actually are if you look back for a moment to the 20th century. We could get some real change then, if we keep them as the “radicals” then the is no future #XR
Calling the current lot a #deathcult is about opening up the space for Corbin and Sanders to be centrists in our minds. No matter what we do the right will be nutters, so not aiming at them with the tags at all.
This applys to everything. So the digital economy are all #dotcons and #failbook with its ownership of whatsapp and Instagram etc. Is the digital leader of the the #deathcult with google and Apple not far behind.
Pushing the dialog is probably the most powerful nonviolent direct action you can do from a armchair or public meeting
Q. The tags my friend are meaningless distracting drivel alas. That allude to something grand. When I click on them sometimes all I see is a list of Hamish posts. They have some utility if they bind peoples posts by theme, which is how they came to be popular on twitter I guess. They are useless when forging ahead one ones own with one’s own invented idiosyncratic tags that just litter ones text with # chars and jargon.
You have great things to say and if you shared them in common English you would reach many more people with them, I assure you.
A. look at the problem I am trying to solve agen. You actually do describe it in your reply but that is as far as your understanding goes in this reply. Note if you would have added a common #hashtag your post WOULD have been added to that hashtag view and the would have been more than my voice. Now keep adding new (common) hashtag users and you get a meaningful conversation and organic spread. When you don’t do this all you have is your #failbook echo chambers. I call this problem #stupidindividualism and it is both #mainstreammedia bad and sad
Note hashtags are comparable across #silos and more importantly on the #openweb get a #hashtag conversation going then do a web search on it to reach outside the #dotcons its very basic stuff.
I use the #deathcult tag to highlight the neo-liberal era of the last 40 years which has left us in this current mess. A cult as few of us inside can see outside “common sense” and death as #XR has made the climate chaos cliff we are facing and billions of deaths visible to the mainstream. Of course neo-liberalism is just an extream form of capitalism we had it before in the UK during the irish potato famine with its millions of deaths and displacements. When people realised the problems mainstream moved to social democracy (soft) capitalism before “forgetting” agen in the late 1970’s. Corbyn and Sanders are trying to move us back to social democracy, which is of course no sulution BUT much better than the current mess. We as radicals need to do better #OMN
My point is that sanders and Corbyn are old mainstream and the current #deathcult are the current mainstream that’s dieing now. Ie we should create real radicalism to make Corbin and Sanders the centrist they actually are if you look back for a moment to the 20th century. We could get some real change then, if we keep them as the “radicals” then the is no future #XR
Calling the current lot a #deathcult is about opening up the space for Corbin and Sanders to be centrists in our minds. No matter what we do the right will be nutters, so not aiming at them with the tags at all.
This applys to everything. So the digital economy are all #dotcons and #failbook with its ownership of whatsapp and Instagram etc. Is the digital leader of the the #deathcult with google and Apple not far behind.
Pushing the dialog is probably the most powerful nonviolent direct action you can do from a armchair or public meeting
A. Yes, well we kinda fucked it up before #failbook came along. The #ossification of #indymedia network from my memory comes to mind. Tecnolagy as individualism over tecnolagy as social, the blogging revolution and years of pointless #encryptionists projects are good examples. Then the #dotcons puts shiny on there poison pill and we all swallowed heaps of “socialmedia” and here we are deep in the #deathcult with a vernier of the #openweb on the edge #OMN
Q. what does that even mean? Should I sell my Tesla now? Am I being scammed ??????
A. It’s fine to enjoy your car, but look clearly at the social/economic system that built it and sold your desire to owen it. that’s all a #deathcult and its not getting better soon #XR
Q. Tesla didn’t get bailed out by the US government. Why weren’t GM, Ford, and Chrysler allowed to fail? They socialize their losses and privatize their profits.
Tesla is the most American car company that exists right now. There is no death cult or green washing.
A. just about all the #dotcons in transport and space are heverly government subsidised its basic stuff and is thus part of the neo-loberal #deathcult that its currently killing us all #XR
Q. The solar city investment doesn’t sit well, tbqh.
Q. my desire to own it is to have a simpler car and also one that doesn’t pollute. It’s easier to reduce emissions from power generation than to audit the tailpipes of every car on the road. It also doesn’t affect air quality of the humans around the car. It’s quite simple, really.
You can’t be mad at Tesla for leveraging programs the government created to increase innovation and build American technology and then ignore the money small businesses can get to bootstrap their ventures. It’s the same thing, different scale.
You are being willfully ignorant about the government’s role in a healthy capitalist economy.
A. Am actually saying the capitalist economy is a deeply unhealthy #deathcult and Musk and his private/public state enterprises are clear to see simption of this. His projects we keep feeding on public subsidies which I have nothing against. But as you say it’s billed as “healthy capitalist economy” which as the article points out it is not my problem.
Q. oh, so what kind of economy will solve the world’s problems?
A. Now that is a question that is hard to answer, what I can say is that the neoliberal #deathcult we have currently is not going to save us. #XR movement in the UK highlights this, we are likely to move to social democracy or fascism in the UK over the next few years. I don’t think either of those can save us. so it’s an open question we currently do not have an answer too. I champion a move away from the #dotcons back onto the openweb as a #stepway project, my small part.
As far back as 1982, fossil fuel executives knew they were trading a few…
Q. I notice you have used the #deathcult hashtag a few times recently on posts about capitalism, neo-liberalism and green consumerism, so I thought I would look it up. Wikipedia says that Death Cult may refer to an early name for the British rock band The Cult or a compilation album featuring all the songs from Death Cult. Under “See also” it links to the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex (also known as the Southern Death Cult), and to Southern Death Cult as yet another name for the band. Finally it says it is used as a synonym for the term “destructive cult”.
Destructive cults are described in the Wikipedia entry for Cult as “groups whose members have, through deliberate action, physically injured or killed other members of their own group or other people”. John Gordon Clark cited totalitarian systems of governance and an emphasis on money making as characteristics of a destructive cult.
A. good research, am trying to get #XR beyond liberalism were #deathcult solutions are discussed with out a thought. A step.
Q. Hamish just loves a hashtag! Once he gets his hands on one he uses it until it falls apart.
A. The idea is to spread um so that they join the mainstream discussion and then becomes the mainstream. Simple idea, very hard for #stupidindividualism#fashernistas to actually do anything so simple. Much like #stepaway from the #dotcons is simple #OMN One can but keep trying, while sailing away on a lifeboat #boatingeurope
Q. I am beginning to suspect you are getting money each time you mention one of these 😉
A. Sadly not, though when I recommend stuff on my blog I anyway put an affiliate link, more outa curiosity to see if it works than any income. Think the is a little money in a paypal account which I have lost the PW and can’t reset die to old phone number 😉
A. #hashtags click on um, search the web with um, use them to create conversations across the #dotcons and out onto the #openweb it’s a little stepaway that is easy to do. It’s a shame about #stupidindividualism#fashionistas that they can’t be a part of this #stepaway its basic stuff.
A. Of course neoliberal Capitalism was always a #deathcult just now with #XR it’s kinda ok to say this. A good example to give people is the Irish potato famine, as we are likely to repeat this soon with climate change hitting industrial agriculture. We really don’t want to be in the dogmatic neoliberal world when this hits as were then, lots of death and despair to go around.
“Thrown into the mix are the US Evangelical Christians who are waiting for Armageddon, the End Times, and the Second coming of Christ, and who welcome climate change catastrophe as a confirmation of their twisted beliefs.
The only time – to my knowledge – that I was ever unfriended on Facebook was by an Evangelical Christian Zionist, now living in the USA, who was offended by my posts showing The Israeli military bombing the hell out of civilians in Gaza. It confused me at the time, but I only recently found out that Jews returning to Israel is also a ‘sign’ of the approaching End Times for those Christian Fundamentalists.
It really is a death cult. US Republicanism, especially in its Christian Fundamentalist form, is a death cult of the most dangerous kind, and is without doubt the greatest obstacle to the continued existence of life on Planet Earth.”
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